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How to Count Music for Dance: Beats, Eights and Phrases

Find the steady beat, count it in fours, join two fours into an eight, and follow the eights through the phrase. Here is the whole method, step by step.

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Short answer

Find the steady beat, then count it in fours: 1 2 3 4, 5 6 7 8. Each number is one beat, and two fours make one 8-count. Start the next eight on 1 again and keep going until the song changes. Before you move, say "5, 6, 7, 8" over the last four beats so everyone starts together.

That's the whole method. The rest of this guide shows each step with a real song.

Step by step

1. Find the beat

The beat is the steady pulse you would tap your foot to. In music theory, pulses counted in a metric context are called beats, and they sit in a regular pattern of strong and weak. That pattern is what you are listening for.

Do not count the words of the song. Follow the drum or the bass line, which stay steady when the singer does not. Tap or clap along for a few bars before you start counting.

2. Group the beats into fours

Most pop, hip hop, jazz and K-pop you will dance to has four beats to a bar. Music theory calls that quadruple time, and you will see it written as 4/4. The first beat of each bar is usually the strongest, and that is your 1.

Count one bar like this:

1 2 3 4

3. Two fours make an eight

Dancers count in eights because that is the length a combination is built on. A figure typically takes eight counts, though four and sixteen are also common. In 4/4, eight counts is exactly two bars.

What you count Beats Written as
One bar 4 1 2 3 4
Two bars (one 8-count) 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Four bars (two 8-counts) 16 1 to 8, then 1 to 8

The second four is said as 5 6 7 8, not as 1 2 3 4 again. That tells you at a glance whether you are in the first half or the second half of the eight. If you want the long version, see what an 8-count is, or look at the studio 8-count written out beat by beat.

One note on words: in contra dance, a count is half a measure, so the same word covers a different length of time. In the studio styles in this guide, one count is one beat.

4. Say the count out loud

Count aloud with the music, every beat, for at least a full song. Then count only the 1 and the 5 aloud and think the rest. Counting out loud feels silly for about a minute. After that, it keeps you from losing your place.

The lead-in is the same everywhere: "5, 6, 7, 8" over the last four beats before the music or the choreography starts. It gives your body a bar to get ready. There is more on it in what 5, 6, 7, 8 means.

Find the 1 in the music

The count only works if your 1 is the music's 1. To find it, listen for the heaviest beat of the bar: a kick drum, a bass note or a chord change. The 1 often lands where the music restarts, such as the first word of a verse or the entry of a new instrument. Tap a few bars and check that your 1 keeps landing on that same moment. There is a longer walk-through in finding the 1 in music.

Eights make phrases

Music is more than beats and bars: bars group into phrases. The prototypical phrase is four measures, and two measures of 4/4 make one 8-count. So a four-bar phrase is two eights, and an eight-bar section is four.

Count the eights as you go: "eight one, eight two, eight three". When the music changes (a new verse, a chorus, a drop) you will usually hear it land on the 1 of a fresh eight. Phrases are not always that tidy, though. The same source notes that the four-measure phrase is commonly expanded or even compressed, so trust your ears over the choreography when they disagree.

Common problems

  • You are always one beat early or late. Your 1 is on the wrong beat. Shift it by one and listen again.
  • The count drifts in the middle of the song. Check for a bar that is longer or shorter than the rest. A phrase may have been stretched.
  • You lose track of which eight you are in. Say the number of the eight under your breath at each 1.
  • The song feels too fast to say every number. Count only the 1 and the 5 aloud and think the rest.

Practise it with Count Studio

Drill the method in three passes. First count the whole song aloud, every beat. Then count only the 1 of each eight. Then count only the 5, 6, 7, 8 lead-in before each new section and think the rest.

Count Studio is a counter for dancers, coming November 27 to iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch. You import a song you own, and it finds the tempo, the beats and the likely 1 on your device, then numbers the eights and counts over the music. If the grid is off, you tap along to fix it. The phrase counter shows which eight you are in, as in "eight 3 of 8". If you dance jazz, how to count jazz shows these same eights in that style.

Bottom line

Find the beat, count it in fours, join two fours into an eight, and follow the eights through the phrase. Say "5, 6, 7, 8" before you move. Do it with one song a day, and counting stops being a task. It becomes how you hear music.

Questions

How do I count music for dance as a beginner?

Find the steady beat, count 1 2 3 4 over and over, and say the second four as 5 6 7 8. Together they make one 8-count. Start with a slow song so every number has room.

Why do dancers count to eight and not four?

Two bars of 4/4 give eight beats, and dance figures typically take eight counts, so eight is the length a combination is usually taught in. Counting 5 6 7 8 also tells you which half of the eight you are in.

What if the song has no obvious 1?

Listen for the heaviest beat, often a kick drum or a chord change, and count from there. If the count feels off, shift your 1 by one beat and listen again.

Do all songs fit neat eights?

Most do, but a phrase of four measures is often expanded or compressed, so count the phrase from the music, not from the choreography alone.

Sources

  1. Wikipedia: Metre (music)
  2. Wikipedia: Contra dance choreography
  3. Open Music Theory: The sentence

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